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Lightning feats
Topic Started: Dec 15 2015, 11:35 PM (1,108 Views)
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When someone moves as fast or faster than lightning, what do we make of that? Lightning bolts vary a lot in speed don't they? So it's a pretty vague statement/feat
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Dec 25 2015, 12:00 AM
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Dec 24 2015, 09:09 PM
Yeah but the fire you generate in a lighter isn't naturally occurring either, it's under man made circumstances. But it's still fite. The electricity in your phone for all intents and purposes is man made too, however its still electricity. You need free flowing electrons to generate an electrical stream and high speed kinetic energy to get a flame. Unless you can prove that these electrons are somehow slower than naturally occurring ones, it's tough to believe that they're any different in functionality.
That's not exactly the same. The electricity inside households is man-made but it follows the law needed to make it. Some dude launching lightning from his fingertips or whatever is not following the law. So why should it be bound by it?
Different packaging, same product. Besides, is there any real reason it wouldnt? The only real reason I keep hearing is Nature > Man Made because it makes people more comfortable.
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Are you positive it is the same product? What if it just looks the same and behaves similarly?
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Dec 25 2015, 09:16 PM
Are you positive it is the same product? What if it just looks the same and behaves similarly?
Well you can never be 100% sure, but the family med students have a saying. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck, you typically have a duck. I'm not saying it's always the case, but there's no clear indication otherwise aside from the occasional lol calc. Which due to lack of scale and abuse of cinematic time in media can not always be relied upon (Ex: Broly Wiped out most of a galaxy in a single scene, but was it time elapsed or did he one shot a galaxy?) Ya know what I'm saying?
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You can't always be sure but that's no reason to automatically assume it functions like real lightning.

As for the different packaging, same product thing, if you tried to fire a lightning bolt from your hand your hand would be burnt to a crisp which pretty much never happens in fiction so it's not exactly conventionally formed or used.

There's usually instances that make the validity of the lightning being realistic iffy.

If it's a comic then it's seems to b legit since they rely on a lot of science based feats and numbers.


But then you have Enel in One Piece who ate the Lightning Devil Fruit, he IS lightning as much as Luffy IS rubber and Ace IS fire.

Yet people who sometimes fail to dodge bullets from crappy matchlock pistols can fight with him, dodge his attacks and such. He can fly at high speed but he's clearly not as fast as lightning nor are his attacks, even though he's literally made of electricity.
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Dec 25 2015, 10:52 PM
You can't always be sure but that's no reason to automatically assume it functions like real lightning.

As for the different packaging, same product thing, if you tried to fire a lightning bolt from your hand your hand would be burnt to a crisp which pretty much never happens in fiction so it's not exactly conventionally formed or used.

There's usually instances that make the validity of the lightning being realistic iffy.

If it's a comic then it's seems to b legit since they rely on a lot of science based feats and numbers.


But then you have Enel in One Piece who ate the Lightning Devil Fruit, he IS lightning as much as Luffy IS rubber and Ace IS fire.

Yet people who sometimes fail to dodge bullets from crappy matchlock pistols can fight with him, dodge his attacks and such. He can fly at high speed but he's clearly not as fast as lightning nor are his attacks, even though he's literally made of electricity.
Yeah, but in fairness they're just powered by such elements. So devil fruit users could go either way.

In a similar Vein, Storm can pull lightning out of the sky and even generate it on the fly. Technically she should be fried to a crisp too, but I think she has the appropriate expansion pack to bypass that issue. In fact, pretty much any super power anyone has breaks the laws of physics. So why would that limit them to something lesser if what they're doing is greater than physics within of itself. Itachi Uchiha shoots black fire room the depths of hell that can't be extinguished for 7 days and 7 nights that is said and has proven to be able to burn through anything, but it doesn't Burn his corneas. Goku can break the sound barrier in flight, but his skin isn't frost bitten and his ear drums don't constantly explode. If I can believe that, I have no reason to assume Ace and Human Torch aren't shooting legit fire. Or that Static and Ginji Amano aren't shooting legit lightning.
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Dec 26 2015, 12:26 AM
If I can believe that, I have no reason to assume Ace and Human Torch aren't shooting legit fire. Or that Static and Ginji Amano aren't shooting legit lightning.
You do when the element in question starts doing weird things like fire not hurting people, is the fire on the back of a Rapidash real fire? Because real fire can't just not burn someone because the thing on fire likes said person.
Or someone charged with electrical energy not shocking people they speed in to save like it should, especially if the person was connected to the ground when touched.

Irrelevant to the point but I'm pretty sure Amaterasu doesn't actually come out of the eye :p jutsu in Naruto can typically hurt the user if they don't use it effectively, Sasuke was burning his mouth learning to perform the Fireball Jutsu.
Don't ask me how lightning chakra works in that regard...Naruto can nearly lose his arm to his own wind chakra but Sasuke and Kakashi can have their hands clad in lightning like who gives a f*** just lightning bro ain't hot or nuffin!


Doing things real elements can do doesn't necessarily mean the element is "real" but doing things the element definitely can't do definitely means it's not a natural element.

Not that I know much about Human Torch(half 3 in the morning do not care to check) but when he goes to the heat of a star does his body create all the helium, hydrogen and whatnot that gives off such a burning reaction or does he simply get hotter because why not? Fire can't just get that hot randomly, a burning tree won't scorch the Earth at a moments notice it can only get hotter with more fuel.

So that there would be an unnatural aspect, the fire has natural properties but unnatural ones too like how I am a human but if I could fly wouldn't exactly be a normal human.


Who knows, all I know is that it's bed time, au revoir :lol:
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